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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:43:00 -
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I am looking forward to a Prospect-ageddon event in the first week or two of release.
I will, of course, be building Prospects to sell during said event as well as investing ISK in marketing expenses (sorry, gank ships) to keep demand flowing.
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2846
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Posted - 2014.05.08 00:28:00 -
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the sigrad on this ship (with links and pirate implants) can get as low as 16m.
Now a Catalyst (Gallente Destroyer 5) with Light Electron Blaster II and (faction) Antimatter S tracks at 0.657 rad/sec against 40 sigrad targets before skills, so about 0.26 rad/sec effective tracking against a 16 sigrad target (up to 0.33 or so with skills). Add in a scripted tracking computer (I *think* the hull has enough CPU for that) and you are still only looking at 0.43 rad/sec effective tracking or so.
Is it the design intention that this ship (when fitted with an afterburner and orbiting at 1250m) can speedtank a Catalyst that fits for max tracking? Orbiting at 800m/s at 1250m is an angular velocity of 0.64 rad/sec, which is about 1.5 times the effective tracking. At that tracking your hit% is 0.5^(2.25), which my mental math estimates at 22%.
Go in to 1000m and you are closer to 7% hit rate.
Please note: I do not understand agility mechanics. It may be impossible to do that tight a turning circle with an afterburner.
Suggestion: Ensure that this ship's turning circle is at least 3000m so that one of the best tracking ships in the game can actually apply damage to it without needing webs. (This may already have been done). I have no problems at all with it being able to speedtank cruisers or even frigates/dessies that are not tracking-fit.
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2846
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:02:00 -
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More on the last post. It takes 5 seconds for said Catalyst to acquire a target lock on the Prospect. (~3.2 if they are able to fit a SeBoII in addition to the tracking computer, 3.3 with a cheap meta one). That sigrad bonus is obscenely powerful.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Adding an ice mining Expedition Frigate in the future is definitely possible.
Given that you are intending the ship to be used in hostile space (where you would be less likely to know about the presence or absence of ice anomalies in advance), I would have thought that the ability to refit any expedition frigate for ice mining on-the-fly would be important.
Back on the Prospect's whole design.
Assume you are in the system Ney and mine there. (0.5 sec, occasional ice anoms, close to lowsec systems). Even when the neighbouring system Fasse (0.4) has an active 'good anomaly', It is likely better income at present to stay in Ney and mine the belts in a Skiff, Covetor or Retriever than it is to take a Prospect next door and mine the better ores but get a lower yield. And that's Fasse - one of the quietest lowsec systems I can name.
The general concept of ninja-mining in unfriendly space would be much more appealing if each anomaly outside highsec spawned with a small amount of very valuable resources that will be quickly depleted (perhaps just three asteroids of 250% density Arkanor in an anomaly where the rest is the standard 100/105/110% density ones). This would create an incentive to look for as-yet untouched anomalies, rewarding people that take the risk of going further afield and making up for the lost time travelling in search of these anomalies.
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2846
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Posted - 2014.05.08 01:59:00 -
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mkint wrote:
I think I'd support that if ore sites weren't anoms. But since they are too-easy-to-find anoms, maybe a 10% chance that any particular ore anom might spawn those high density asteroids. I agree with you that ninja mining just doesn't sound very profitable with the current ores in game. There's no way the value of any of the ores can go up enough to justify the risk and time sink of ninja mining and not just joining a low risk nullbear alliance instead, or a more reliable wormhole corp.
The good thing about anomolies is that not only are they easy for prey (miners) to find, they are also easy for predators to find.
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2849
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Posted - 2014.05.08 23:16:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:
I think most people are missing how good this ship is for gankers though.
Better than what we already have?
Under the assumption that my earlier calculations were correct it's practically indestructible when flown well and used in conjunction with external effects that reduce sigrad. And it can cloak and doesn't seem suspicious in a belt. This makes it an incredible tool for scouting.
Unless it is subject to at least one (and probably more) webs and/or target painters, it's just not getting hit by anything.
I will most certainly be training my scout alt into these and I expect a lot of the New Order will do the same.
Set the universe on fire - then sell the survivors ash.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
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